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-blue sky: miscellaneous 
  
-vast volumes of email +====vast volumes of email====
- May 18th +
-Submitted by Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mozilla.org> to Miscellaneous.+
  
- ``Intertwingularity is not generally acknowledged -- people keep pretending they can make things deeply hierarchical, categorizable and sequential when they can't. Everything is deeply intertwingled.''  +May 18th (1998) 
- -- Ted Nelson  + 
 +Submitted by Jamie Zawinski to Miscellaneous. 
 + 
 +"Intertwingularity is not generally acknowledged -- people keep pretending they can make things deeply hierarchical, categorizable and sequential when they can't. Everything is deeply [[intertwingled]].-- Ted Nelson  
  
 In the following, I outline a potential project to make it easier to deal with a massive volume of personal messages: excavating, traversing, relating, reporting, annotating. In the following, I outline a potential project to make it easier to deal with a massive volume of personal messages: excavating, traversing, relating, reporting, annotating.
  
-I call this hypothetical program ``Intertwingle.''+I call this hypothetical program "Intertwingle."
  
-    * introduction. +  * introduction. 
-    * links are legion. +  * links are legion. 
-    * searches are intersections. +  * searches are intersections. 
-    * implementation. +  * implementation. 
-          parser. +    parser. 
-          database. +    database. 
-          query tool. +    query tool. 
-          presentation tools.  +    presentation tools.  
-    * future. +  * future. 
  
-introduction.+====introduction.====
  
-    Intertwingle can be seen as a unification of a search tool and an address book. It is not, however, a mail reader. The presentation of query results could be done through a mail reader, but the intention is that ones choice of mail reader should be orthogonal to the use of this tool. The two kinds of tools just happen to operate on the same data.+Intertwingle can be seen as a unification of a search tool and an address book. It is not, however, a mail reader. The presentation of query results could be done through a mail reader, but the intention is that ones choice of mail reader should be orthogonal to the use of this tool. The two kinds of tools just happen to operate on the same data.
  
-    The design philosophy is that any time there is a visual representation of an object, the corresponding object should be accessible with a gesture: That chasing links is easier than composing search terms (but both are needed.)+The design philosophy is that any time there is a visual representation of an object, the corresponding object should be accessible with a gesture: That chasing links is easier than composing search terms (but both are needed.)
  
-    The target audience is individuals who have a lot of mail. The target audience is not inhabitants of the corporation, it is people. Needs which are specific to IS Managers, or to Enterprise Directory Services are not of interest. This is about the general problem of handling lots of individual mail. (Whether in the context of personal mail, or job-related mail, the problem is the same: you've got a lot of it; now what do you do?)+The target audience is individuals who have a lot of mail. The target audience is not inhabitants of the corporation, it is people. Needs which are specific to IS Managers, or to Enterprise Directory Services are not of interest. This is about the general problem of handling lots of individual mail. (Whether in the context of personal mail, or job-related mail, the problem is the same: you've got a lot of it; now what do you do?)
  
-    Sharing is an interesting problem, and may be addressed, but I feel it is explicitly secondary in priority to solving the problem in the non-shared domain. (But, we should think about it up front, because that kind of thing tends to be hard to retrofit.) +Sharing is an interesting problem, and may be addressed, but I feel it is explicitly secondary in priority to solving the problem in the non-shared domain. (But, we should think about it up front, because that kind of thing tends to be hard to retrofit.) 
 links are legion. links are legion.
-    The sheer multitude of representations-of-objects yields a colossal number of potential links to follow, which is why I anticipate link-chasing to be a (usually) far easier method of excavation than searching. For example, here are the headers of a typical message:+The sheer multitude of representations-of-objects yields a colossal number of potential links to follow, which is why I anticipate link-chasing to be a (usually) far easier method of excavation than searching. For example, here are the headers of a typical message:
  
-    Date: Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:40:07 PDT 
-    From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mcom.com> 
-    To: eng 
-    Subject: printing 
-    In-Reply-To: Chris Houck's message of Sun 3-Jul-94 13:19:23 -0700 <9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com> 
-    Message-ID: <19940703093034.jwz@islay.mcom.com> 
-    References: <9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com> 
  
-    There is a great deal of structure there:+  Date:  Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:40:07 PDT 
 +  From:  Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mcom.com> 
 +  To:  eng 
 +  Subject:  printing 
 +  In-Reply-To:  Chris Houck's message of Sun 3-Jul-94 13:19:23 -0700 <9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com> 
 +  Message-ID:  <19940703093034.jwz@islay.mcom.com> 
 +  References <9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com>
  
-          Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:40:07 PDT +There is a great deal of structure there:
-              This is a representation of a point in time. From here one can envision traversing to a list of other messages within some range of that momentthat hour, that day, that month, that year.+
  
-          Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mcom.com> +**Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:40:07 PDT** 
-              This is a description of a particular person. From here one should be able to easily get to information related to that person: an address book entry, or a list of all messages sent by themor sent to themor any number of other annotations.+This is a representation of a point in time. From here one can envision traversing to a list of other messages within some range of that moment: that hourthat daythat month, that year.
  
-          Jamie Zawinski +**Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mcom.com>** 
-              This is a name, not a person, and names are notoriously non-unique. From here it would be useful to get to a list of all known people who have claimed that name (from the set of people who are message senders or recipients.)+This is a description of particular person. From here one should be able to easily get to information related to that person: an address book entry, or a list of all messages sent by them, or sent to them, or any number of other annotations.
  
-          jwz@mcom.com +**Jamie Zawinski** 
-              This is an email address, not a person, and while one email address is usually not used by more than one person, it's quite common for one person to have many email addresses (or many variations on the same address.From here it would be useful to get to a list of all known people who have used that address (from the set of people who are message senders or recipients) and from there to the set of other addresses used by that person or those people. One might also find it useful to get a list of messages associated with this address (while excluding messages from other addresses of the same person.)+This is a name, not a person, and names are notoriously non-unique. From here it would be useful to get to a list of all known people who have claimed that name (from the set of people who are message senders or recipients.)
  
-          eng +**jwz@mcom.com** 
-              This is an email address, yet it happens to be mailing list. There is no one person associated with ityet the set of operations one might like to perform on it is very similar.+This is an email address, not person, and while one email address is usually not used by more than one person, it's quite common for one person to have many email addresses (or many variations on the same address.) From here it would be useful to get to a list of all known people who have used that address (from the set of people who are message senders or recipients) and from there to the set of other addresses used by that person or those people. One might also find it useful to get a list of messages associated with this address (while excluding messages from other addresses of the same person.)
  
-          printing +**eng**  
-              This is unstructured textand what one does with unstructured text is attempt to match patterns in it. There are any number of other properties associated with this particular piece of text: it is in a header field called Subject in a message from Jamie Zawinskion Sunday, July 3rd, and so on. All of these are interesting properties that are within one or two link-hops of the text itself. Their proximity is what makes them interesting.+This is an email addressyet it happens to be a mailing list. There is no one person associated with it, yet the set of operations one might like to perform on it is very similar.
  
-          Chris Houck +**printing** 
-              A nameas above.+This is unstructured textand what one does with unstructured text is attempt to match patterns in it. There are any number of other properties associated with this particular piece of text: it is in a header field called Subject in a message from Jamie Zawinski, on Sunday, July 3rd, and so on. All of these are interesting properties that are within one or two link-hops of the text itself. Their proximity is what makes them interesting.
  
-          Chris Houck's message +**Chris Houck** 
-              An ambiguous reference to a message. From hereone should be able to get to the set of all messages from someone who claimed the name Chris Houck.+A nameas above.
  
-          Chris Houck's message of Sun 3-Jul-94 13:19:23 -0700 +**Chris Houck's message** 
-              Another reference to a message, probably less ambiguous.+An ambiguous reference to a message. From hereone should be able to get to the set of all messages from someone who claimed the name Chris Houck.
  
-          <9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com> +**Chris Houck's message of Sun 3-Jul-94 13:19:23 -0700** 
-          <19940703093034.jwz@islay.mcom.com> +Another reference to a messageprobably less ambiguous.
-              These also are references to particular messagesthe least ambiguous representations so far; however, they are still slightly ambiguous, since message IDs refer to original messages: there could be multiple copies of these messages with slightly different headers or other annotations within the message-store+
  
-    Any any time there is a link, one can imagine an equal but opposite counter-link: when we talk of reaching lists of objects above, the object by which we reached that list will always be a member of the list. And if A is three hops away from Dthen D is three hops away from Aand traversal in both directions should be possible.+**<9407032019.AA18853@neon.mcom.com>** 
 +**<19940703093034.jwz@islay.mcom.com>** 
 +These also are references to particular messages, the least ambiguous representations so far; howeverthey are still slightly ambiguoussince message IDs refer to original messages: there could be multiple copies of these messages with slightly different headers or other annotations within the message-store
  
-    However, the object at the other end of the link does not necessarily encode the reverse path in its usual visual representationFor examplewhile messages point to the message to which they are a replythe parent doesn't (in itself) point to the children. This implicit relationship must be made explicit: it must be easy to get from a message to the set of messages which refer to it. All links must be bidirectional.+Any any time there is a link, one can imagine an equal but opposite counter-link: when we talk of reaching lists of objects above, the object by which we reached that list will always be a member of the listAnd if A is three hops away from Dthen D is three hops away from Aand traversal in both directions should be possible.
  
-    Further structure exists outside of the message headers themselves:+However, the object at the other end of the link does not necessarily encode the reverse path in its usual visual representation. For example, while messages point to the message to which they are a reply, the parent doesn't (in itself) point to the children. This implicit relationship must be made explicitit must be easy to get from a message to the set of messages which refer to it. All links must be bidirectional.
  
-        * Messages live in folders.+Further structure exists outside of the message headers themselves:
  
-              o Folders have names.+  * Messages live in folders. 
 +    * Folders have names
 +    * Folders are sometimes arranged in a hierarchy. 
 +    * Folders tend to store messages linearly, in a particular order: thus, each message has "previous" and "next" relationships with other messages.  
 +  * Messages can contain other messages (forwarded messages, or digests.) Each such message is a message in its own right, but the containment relationship can be important. 
 +  *  Messages have bodies. 
 +    * The bodies can contain unstructured text. 
 +    * The bodies can contain text that is named, for example, an attached text file which has a file name or description specified in its attachment headers. 
 +    * The bodies can contain binary objects which, while not textually searchable, are named and described. 
 +    * Bodies can contain hyperlinks. Plain-text messages might happen to have detectable URLs in them, and HTML messages have many mechanisms for referring to other objects. This implies that it would be interesting to traverse from a message, to information about a web page that it refers to, and back to a set of messages which refer to objects on that server
  
-              o Folders are sometimes arranged in a hierarchy.+====searches are intersections.====
  
-              o Folders tend to store messages linearly, in particular order: thuseach message has ``previous'' and ``next'' relationships with other messages+Following link only gives you one dimension of mobility. A search can be seen as following multiple links, and finding the intersection (or union) of the results of those links.
  
-        * Messages can contain other messages (forwarded messages, or digests.) Each such message is a message in its own right, but the containment relationship can be important.+Any link-relationship should be searchableFor example:
  
-        Messages have bodies.+  All messages from person between date and date that have pattern in the body. 
 +  * All messages from person which contain a message from person. 
 +  * All messages to mailing-list which refer to URL. 
 +  * All messages containing text in the main body, but not in an attachment. 
 +  * All messages with an attachment whose file name contains string
  
-              o The bodies can contain unstructured text. 
  
-              o The bodies can contain text that is named, for example, an attached text file which has a file name or description specified in its attachment headers. 
  
-              o The bodies can contain binary objects which, while not textually searchable, are named and described.+====implementation.====
  
-              o Bodies can contain hyperlinks. Plain-text messages might happen to have detectable URLs in them, and HTML messages have many mechanisms for referring to other objects. This implies that it would be interesting to traverse from a message, to information about a web page that it refers to, and back to a set of messages which refer to objects on that server. +The basic components of this system are:
  
-searches are intersections.+===1parser.===
  
-    Following a link only gives you one dimension of mobility. A search can be seen as following multiple links, and finding the intersection (or unionof the results of those links.+The module which reads the existing message store (directories of BSD mbox files, or news spool directories, or whateverand parses them into tagged, indexable data.
  
-    Any link-relationship should be searchableFor example:+It needs to understand where messages begin and end, understand how to descend into MIME structures, how to translate HTML into indexable text, how to recognise URLs, and so on, and so on.
  
-        * All messages from person between date and date that have pattern in the body.+It will presumably generate an intermediate data representation which can be more easily fed to the databaseA pretty-printed version of the representation of a message might look like this (if you will excuse my lisp-centric upbringing; here in the modern world, this would presumably be done with XML):
  
-        * All messages from person which contain a message from person.+<code lisp> 
 +(:message 
 +  (:db-id "globally-unique-identifier"
 +  (:header-field (:key "from") 
 + (:addr "Jamie Zawinski" "jwz")) 
 +  (:header-field (:key "newsgroups"
 + (:news "mcom.test")) 
 +  (:header-field (:key "subject"
 + (:text "hey")) 
 +  (:link "http://url-found-in-some-textual-header/"
 +(:attachment 
 + (:type "text/plain"
 + (:body "message body text"
 + (:link "http://url-found-in-body-text"
 + (:addr-or-id "email@address.found.in.body"
 + (:addr-or-id "or@maybe.its.really.a.message.id"))   
 +(:attachment 
 + (:type "text/plain"
 + (:name "filename"
 + (:description "description"
 + (:text "decoded/stripped text of attachment"
 + (:link "http://ijkl"
 + (:link "http://mnop")) 
 +(:attachment 
 + (:type "application/postscript")) 
 +(:attachment 
 + (:type "message/rfc822"
 + (:message-pointer "db-id")))
  
-        * All messages to mailing-list which refer to URL.+</code>
  
-        * All messages containing text in the main bodybut not in an attachment.+These objects are shallow: that last "db-id" mentioned in the example is a pointer to a top-level message object that will be coming up soon (probably next in the stream.) That isdeeply nested trees of messages are flattened. (An interesting search term might be "depth > 1" for when you're looking for something, and you know it was in a forwarded message, but you don't remember from whom.)
  
-        * All messages with an attachment whose file name contains string+Deeply nested MIME structures (multipart/ forms) are also flattened. Content-Disposition is always assumed to be inline for purposes of indexing; we index the body of any part that is of a text type. There is no special handling for multipart/alternative forms: each part is indexed as for multipart/mixed.
  
-implementation. 
  
-    The basic components of this system are:+A more formal representation might be
  
-       1. parser.+<html><pre> 
 +    msg_desc      =  db_id *msg_header 
 +     *link_part *addr_id_part 
 +     *msg_body 
 +    msg_header    =  header_name header_body 
 +    msg_body      =  text_part / link_part / 
 +                       attach_part 
 +    header_name    keyword 
 +    header_body    text / *mailbox / 
 +     *newsgroup / *msg_id / date 
 +    mailbox        name address 
 +    name          =  keyword 
 +    address        keyword 
 +    newsgroup      keyword 
 +    msg_id        =  keyword 
 +    date          =  <time_t> 
 +    text_part      content_type text 
 +    content_type  =  keyword 
 +    link_part      url 
 +    addr_id_part  =  address / msg_id 
 +    url            text 
 +    attach_part    content_type 
 +        [attach_name] 
 +                       [attach_desc] 
 +                       [attach_value] 
 +     *link_part *addr_id_part 
 +    attach_name    text 
 +    attach_desc    text 
 +    attach_value  =  text_part / db_id 
 +    db_id          <uint32> 
 +    keyword        <an interned string> 
 +    text          =  <an uninterned, 
 +                       searchable string>
  
-          The module which reads the existing message store (directories of BSD mbox files, or news spool directories, or whatever) and parses them into tagged, indexable data.+</pre></html>
  
-          It needs to understand where messages begin and endunderstand how to descend into MIME structures, how to translate HTML into indexable text, how to recognise URLs, and so on, and so on.+(Note: I've actually already written this parser; it's not a lot of code, but it seems to work fairly well. If anyone is seriously interested in taking this project and running with itI'll see about getting permission to release that code.)
  
-          It will presumably generate an intermediate data representation which can be more easily fed to the database. A pretty-printed version of the representation of a message might look like this (if you will excuse my lisp-centric upbringing; here in the modern world, this would presumably be done with XML): 
  
-          (:message +=== 2database.=== 
-            (:db-id "globally-unique-identifier"+  
-            (:header-field (:key "from"+The module which stores the output of the parser on disk in some quickly-retrievable format. It needs to have both relational and full-text-indexing properties; many of the searches we want to do could be accomplished with a database that was nothing but a glorified set of hash tables; but body searches need to be done in some more clever way. (Perhaps simply putting every word in hash table would be sufficient, but I doubt it.) And more to the point, the text searches have to take advantage of the tagging of the data, so that, for example, constraining a search to be in the subject and not the body actually makes the search go faster instead of slower.
-          (:addr "Jamie Zawinski" "jwz")) +
-            (:header-field (:key "newsgroups"+
-          (:news "mcom.test")) +
-            (:header-field (:key "subject") +
-           (:text "hey")) +
-            (:link "http://url-found-in-some-textual-header/"+
-            (:attachment +
-              (:type "text/plain"+
-              (:body "message body text"+
-              (:link "http://url-found-in-body-text"+
-              (:addr-or-id "email@address.found.in.body"+
-              (:addr-or-id "or@maybe.its.really.a.message.id"))           +
-            (:attachment +
-              (:type "text/plain"+
-              (:name "filename"+
-              (:description "description"+
-              (:text "decoded/stripped text of attachment"+
-              (:link "http://ijkl"+
-              (:link "http://mnop")) +
-            (:attachment +
-              (:type "application/postscript")) +
-            (:attachment +
-              (:type "message/rfc822"+
-              (:message-pointer "db-id")))+
  
-          These objects are shallow: that last "db-id" mentioned in the example is pointer to a top-level message object that will be coming up soon (probably next in the stream.) That is, deeply nested trees of messages are flattened. (An interesting search term might be ``depth > 1'' for when you're looking for something, and you know it was in forwarded message, but you don't remember from whom.)+Incremental updates are probably pretty important. I doubt we could get away with setup that required nightly update.
  
-          Deeply nested MIME structures (multipart/ forms) are also flattened. Content-Disposition is always assumed to be inline for purposes of indexing; we index the body of any part that is of a text type. There is no special handling for multipart/alternative forms: each part is indexed as for multipart/mixed.+It seems clear that RDF would be the way go go here.
  
-          A more formal representation might be+===3. query tool.===
  
-              msg_desc      =  db_id *msg_header +All of the web search engines force the user to type in boolean expressions. Sometimes that's okbut we should do something better, that lets the user construct expressions with a GUI.
-              *link_part *addr_id_part +
-              *msg_body +
-              msg_header    =  header_name header_body +
-              msg_body      =  text_part / link_part / +
-                                 attach_part +
-              header_name    keyword +
-              header_body    text / *mailbox / +
-              *newsgroup / *msg_id / date +
-              mailbox        name address +
-              name          =  keyword +
-              address        keyword +
-              newsgroup      keyword +
-              msg_id        =  keyword +
-              date          =  <time_t> +
-              text_part      content_type text +
-              content_type  =  keyword +
-              link_part      url +
-              addr_id_part  =  address / msg_id +
-              url            text +
-              attach_part    content_type +
-                 [attach_name] +
-                                 [attach_desc] +
-                                 [attach_value] +
-              *link_part *addr_id_part +
-              attach_name    text +
-              attach_desc    text +
-              attach_value  =  text_part / db_id +
-              db_id          <uint32> +
-              keyword        <an interned string> +
-              text          =  <an uninterned, +
-                                 searchable string>+
  
-          (NoteI've actually already written this parser; it's not lot of codebut it seems to work fairly well. If anyone is seriously interested in taking this project and running with it, I'll see about getting permission to release that code.)+Drawing on the notion that searches are really set operations, perhaps one aspect of the search tool could be drag-and-dropto add set of messages to the union of messages returneddrop the link on the "Or" box. To add it to the intersection of messages returned, drop it on the "And" box. Of course, that doesn't handle deeper boolean expressions, or textual searches. Maybe it's a dumb idea.
  
-       2database.+=== 4presentation tools.===
  
-          The module which stores the output of the parser on disk in some quickly-retrievable formatIt needs to have both relational and full-text-indexing properties; many of the searches we want to do could be accomplished with database that was nothing but a glorified set of hash tablesbut body searches need to be done in some more clever way. (Perhaps simply putting every word in a hash table would be sufficient, but I doubt it.) And more to the point, the text searches have to take advantage of the tagging of the data, so that, for example, constraining a search to be in the subject and not the body actually makes the search go faster instead of slower.+There are objects, sets of objects, and presentation toolsThere is presentation tool for each kind of objectand one for each kind of object set.
  
-          Incremental updates are probably pretty important. I doubt we could get away with a setup that required a nightly update.+====names, addresses, or people.====
  
-          It seems clear that RDF would be the way go go here.+The presentation tools for these kinds of objects needn'be complicated, since there's not a lot of information to show: just a bunch of links and/or commands. For example, there needs to be a place to hang the "show me all people with this name" gesture, and the "show me all messages from this user" gesture. But just including the list there isn't going to work, since it's long; really, there wants to be a way to initialize a search with this userPerhaps activating one of those controls would bring up the search tool with some terms already filled in, like
  
-       3. query tool.+user = "Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mozilla.org>"
  
-          All of the web search engines force the user to type in boolean expressions. Sometimes that's ok, but we should do something better, that lets the user construct expressions with a GUI.+Getting back to the drag-and-drop idea, dragging that button onto an existing search tool could expand the search to include that term.
  
-          Drawing on the notion that searches are really set operations, perhaps one aspect of the search tool could be drag-and-dropto add a set of messages to the union of messages returned, drop the link on the ``Or'' boxTo add it to the intersection of messages returned, drop it on the ``And'' box. Of course, that doesn't handle deeper boolean expressions, or textual searchesMaybe it's a dumb idea.+One should be able to store annotations on peopleeven something as simple as a single text field would add a great deal of powerThese annotations should themselves be searchable. These annotations should be able to contain (clickable!) references to other people or messages or newsgroups or...
  
-       4. presentation tools.+BBDB convinces me that this is an absolute requirement.
  
-          There are objects, sets of objects, and presentation tools. There is a presentation tool for each kind of object; and one for each kind of object set.+The problem with the annotation notion is that it's the first time that we consider a piece of data which is not merely projection of data already present in the message store: it is out-of-band data that needs to be stored somewhere. In the address book? In LDAP? I have no idea
  
-          names, addresses, or people.+====sets of people.====
  
-                The presentation tools for these kinds of objects needn't be complicated, since there's not lot of information to show: just a bunch of links and/or commands. For examplethere needs to be a place to hang the ``show me all people with this name'' gestureand the ``show me all messages from this user'' gesture. But just including the list there isn't going to worksince it's long; reallythere wants to be a way to initialize a search with this userPerhaps activating one of those controls would bring up the search tool with some terms already filled in, like+Perhaps simple list is sufficientwith options to sort in various ways (by last name, first nameemailhost-name, or host-domain.
  
-                      user "Jamie Zawinski <jwz@mozilla.org>"+====messages.====
  
-                Getting back to the drag-and-drop ideadragging that button onto an existing search tool could expand the search to include that term.+Presenting a single message is straightforward: just return a message/rfc822 or text/html document. However, there should be some other controls available: Reply-To-SenderReply-To-All, Forward. And there needs to be a place to hang the reciprocal links to the referring messages, to the folder, and so on.
  
-                One should be able to store annotations on people: even something as simple as a single text field would add a great deal of powerThese annotations should themselves be searchable. These annotations should be able to contain (clickable!) references to other people or messages or newsgroups or...+Annotations of messages would be interesting as wellFor example, one might want to make a note to one's self that two messages from different people refer to the same issue and should be dealt with at the same time
  
-                BBDB convinces me that this is an absolute requirement.+====sets of messages.====
  
-                The problem with the annotation notion is that it's the first time that we consider piece of data which is not merely a projection of data already present in the message store: it is out-of-band data that needs to be stored somewhere. In the address book? In LDAP? I have no idea+This presentation has to be fairly powerful; it needs to present decent summary of the messages (with resizable columns for sender, recipient, date, and so on) and be able to do all the usual sorting and threading tricks. Basically, this has to be a very good thread display.
  
-          sets of people.+It should also be able to incrementally update as results are coming back from the database, so that the user can see the results they're getting (and even examine messages) while more results are still coming in.
  
-                Perhaps a simple list is sufficientwith options to sort in various ways (by last namefirst name, email, host-name, or host-domain.+Note that, to this viewthe concept of "folder" is meaningless: a folder name is just another property by which searches can be pruned.
  
-          messages.+Today, I can point my "message set browser" at my Inbox folder, but I can't point it at the set of messages with word in the body. The special treatment of Inbox is arbitrary and limiting
  
-                Presenting a single message is straightforward: just return a message/rfc822 or text/html document. However, there should be some other controls available: Reply-To-Sender, Reply-To-All, Forward. And there needs to be a place to hang the reciprocal links to the referring messages, to the folder, and so on. +Annotating a message-set could mean manually including and excluding specific messages: a message-set could be considered a "bucketwhich the user can then manipulate by hand, assign a name, and keep around. For use as a "to dolist, say. (Message inclusion and exclusion could be handled by manipulating the search terms, so it's not as hard a problem as textual annotations in general.) 
- +
-                Annotations of messages would be interesting as well. For example, one might want to make a note to one's self that two messages from different people refer to the same issue and should be dealt with at the same time.  +
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-          sets of messages. +
- +
-                This presentation has to be fairly powerful; it needs to present a decent summary of the messages (with resizable columns for sender, recipient, date, and so on) and be able to do all the usual sorting and threading tricks. Basically, this has to be a very good thread display. +
- +
-                It should also be able to incrementally update as results are coming back from the database, so that the user can see the results they're getting (and even examine messages) while more results are still coming in. +
- +
-                      Note that, to this view, the concept of ``folder'' is meaningless: a folder name is just another property by which searches can be pruned. +
- +
-                      Today, I can point my ``message set browser'' at my Inbox folder, but I can't point it at the set of messages with word in the body. The special treatment of Inbox is arbitrary and limiting.  +
- +
-                Annotating a message-set could mean manually including and excluding specific messages: a message-set could be considered a ``bucket'' which the user can then manipulate by hand, assign a name, and keep around. For use as a ``to do'' list, say. (Message inclusion and exclusion could be handled by manipulating the search terms, so it's not as hard a problem as textual annotations in general.) +
  
 Presentation tools should be linked as well: one should be able to pick up the sets displayed in one tool and project them into another. For example: Presentation tools should be linked as well: one should be able to pick up the sets displayed in one tool and project them into another. For example:
  
-    * Show me all messages with word in body. +  * Show me all messages with word in body. 
- +  * Drag the sender column away: that's a set of people, therefore it is displayed using a "people browser"
-    * Drag the sender column away: that's a set of people, therefore it is displayed using a ``people browser''+  * In the people browser, click on an address: refine the search to contain only those in the same domain as that address. A new, smaller list of people is presented. 
- +  * Project the addresses of those people into a message-set-viewer: this shows all mail received from any of those people. 
-    * In the people browser, click on an address: refine the search to contain only those in the same domain as that address. A new, smaller list of people is presented. +
- +
-    * Project the addresses of those people into a message-set-viewer: this shows all mail received from any of those people. +
  
 Perhaps the message-set presentation is a simulated IMAP folder. Perhaps the message and message-set presentation tools are a mail reader. Perhaps the message-set presentation is a simulated IMAP folder. Perhaps the message and message-set presentation tools are a mail reader.
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 The other components are server-side, and need to be far faster than Java is currently capable of. And hopefully we won't have to write the database at all, but can just use something publicly available. The other components are server-side, and need to be far faster than Java is currently capable of. And hopefully we won't have to write the database at all, but can just use something publicly available.
  
-future. +====future.====
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-    There are other interesting data-visualization possibilities here as well; since really what we have is nodes and connections between them, tools like graphers and histogram charts might be applicable as well, to answer questions like+
  
-        * show me a graph of the age-distribution of my unanswered mailor,+There are other interesting data-visualization possibilities here as well; since really what we have is nodes and connections between themtools like graphers and histogram charts might be applicable as wellto answer questions like
  
-        * show me a graph of people who are known to have directly exchanged mail with each other so that I can see the ``clumping'' of my correspondents. +  * show me a graph of the age-distribution of my unanswered mail, or, 
 +  * show me a graph of people who are known to have directly exchanged mail with each other so that I can see the "clumpingof my correspondents. 
  
-    The object/presentation infrastructure should be designed so that new tools drop in easily, with few interdependencies.+The object/presentation infrastructure should be designed so that new tools drop in easily, with few interdependencies.
  
-    This sort of model is not applicable merely to the domain of messages; it applies equally well to any corpus which has structured, potentially-ambiguous references (or rather, representations of references.)+This sort of model is not applicable merely to the domain of messages; it applies equally well to any corpus which has structured, potentially-ambiguous references (or rather, representations of references.)
  
-    For example, source code.+For example, source code.
  
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