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| - | ===Workshop Notes=== | + | ====" |
| workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; | workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; | ||
| - | Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of quick extinction | + | Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of rapid extinction |
| - | **Day 1** | + | Photos: http:// |
| - | Look at trees in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés | + | ====Day 1==== |
| - | **Different elements of identity** we looked at: | + | walk and tree identofication in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés. |
| - | * origin | + | Different elements of identity we looked at: |
| + | | ||
| + | * age | ||
| + | * gender | ||
| + | * position/ | ||
| - | * age | + | General parameters that create a ' |
| - | * gender | + | |
| + | * if you cn provide an answer to the questions: ~ what's your name? where are you from? how old are you? | ||
| - | * position/ | + | Nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree |
| - | //- General parameters that create a 'normal' | + | in some cases nationality can be replaced by citizenship? |
| - | * //minimal//: name, date of birth, nationality ~ what's your name? where are you from? how old are you? | + | |
| + | * //extra//: health insurance number, debit card/bank account, tax number | ||
| + | * //actual//: website, facebook, linkedin, myspace... | ||
| + | * 'What can x do?' | ||
| - | -> nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree | ||
| - | -> can nationality be replaced by citizenship? | + | proposal to create a 'corporation' |
| + | * A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona | ||
| + | * Personhood can refer to | ||
| + | * a human being (material essence, person living on the street) | ||
| + | * a natural person (ID) | ||
| + | * an artificial person (corporation) | ||
| - | * // | + | Personhood is defined by |
| + | | ||
| + | * a bureaucratical system | ||
| + | * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> ' | ||
| - | * //extra//: health insurance number, debit card/bank account, tax number | + | ' |
| + | * kept | ||
| + | * passed on | ||
| + | * destroyed | ||
| - | * //actual//: website, facebook, linkedin, myspace... | + | we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert some human dna-fragment in it... |
| - | * 'What can x do?' | + | if you don't have a birth certificate, |
| + | **How do we proceed?** | ||
| + | - **proto-personhood** for trees: ' | ||
| + | - **philosophical**: | ||
| + | - **physicality**: | ||
| - | -> create | + | A lot of trees have numbers (is there a register? how is it managed?), we can presume all trees have a owner in Belgium but owners may have different status (forest, private property, city of brussels) |
| - | A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona | + | So maybe interesting to add the parameter of ' |
| - | Personhood can refer to | + | Q: who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? |
| - | * a human being (material essence, person living | + | A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': |
| - | * a natural person (ID) | + | Q: where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? |
| - | * an artificial person (corporation) | + | We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives |
| - | Personhood is defined by | + | Perspective of a tree: does not want to be chopped off & wants the right to light, soil & water |
| - | * institutions | ||
| - | * a bureaucratical system | + | ====Day 2==== |
| - | * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> 'invocation' | + | We looked at an 'Oak du marais' |
| - | ' | + | Look at the plane trees (platane) in front of the Walvis. they are planned |
| - | * kept | + | ====discussion on the ' |
| - | * passed | + | |
| + | * Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? How will we co-live with them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/ | ||
| + | * a way to reconnect with trees, restore the natural-human relationship. e.g in some parts of Lithuania it is unthinkeable to cut a tree. | ||
| + | * can we create a map of Brussels' | ||
| + | * do we see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently? | ||
| + | * look into the ' | ||
| + | * Nik reads Ecuador constitution that has integrated the rights for Nature in the law | ||
| + | * we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system | ||
| + | * Heath' | ||
| + | * the human being can occupy most echological niches (of species that disappear) | ||
| - | * destroyed | ||
| - | -> we could wrap a corporation around | + | Next phase: proof of concept, create prototypes |
| + | * Look at information & data that exist already | ||
| + | * question | ||
| - | -> if you don't have a birth certificate, | ||
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| - | **How do we proceed?** | ||
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| * Hildegard' | * Hildegard' | ||
| * A new green history of the world | * A new green history of the world | ||
| + | * Deep Survival, Lawrence González | ||
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