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- | ===Workshop Notes=== | + | ====" |
- | workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; | + | |
- | Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of quick extinction | + | * workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; |
- | **Day 1** | + | |
- | Look at trees in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés | + | Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of rapid extinction |
- | **Different elements of identity** we looked at: | + | Photos: |
+ | | ||
+ | | ||
- | * origin | + | ====Background, |
- | * age | + | |
+ | * http:// | ||
+ | * http:// | ||
+ | * http:// | ||
+ | * http:// | ||
- | * gender | + | ====Workshop 1: Day 1==== |
- | * position/postcode | + | walk and tree identofication in Forest de Soignes |
- | //- General parameters that create a ' | + | Different elements of identity |
+ | * origin | ||
+ | * age | ||
+ | * gender | ||
+ | * position/address/postcode | ||
- | * // | + | General parameters that create a 'normal' |
- | -> nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree | + | * **minimal** |
+ | * if you can provide an answer to the questions: " | ||
- | -> can nationality be replaced by citizenship? | + | Nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree |
- | * // | + | in some cases nationality could be replaced by citizenship. could this equate to the family or species the tree belongs to? |
- | * //extra//: health insurance number, debit card/bank account, tax number | + | * // |
+ | | ||
+ | * //actual//: website, facebook, linkedin, myspace... | ||
+ | * 'What can x do?' | ||
- | * //actual//: website, facebook, linkedin, myspace... | + | proposal to create a ' |
+ | | ||
+ | * Personhood can refer to | ||
+ | * a human being (material essence, for example a person living on the street) | ||
+ | * a natural person (for example, someone able to produce a state issued ID) | ||
+ | * an artificial person (a corporation) | ||
- | * ' | + | Personhood is defined by |
+ | | ||
+ | * a bureaucratic system | ||
+ | * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> ' | ||
+ | ' | ||
+ | * kept | ||
+ | * passed on | ||
+ | * destroyed | ||
- | -> create | + | we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert a human dna-fragment in it... |
- | A new legal persona is not necessarily | + | if you don't have a birth certificate, |
- | Personhood can refer to | + | **How do we proceed? |
+ | - **proto-personhood** for trees: ' | ||
+ | - **philosophical**: | ||
+ | - **physicality**: | ||
- | * a human being (material essence, person living on the street) | + | A lot of trees have numbers (is there a register? how is it managed?), we can presume all trees have a owner in Belgium but owners may have different status |
- | * a natural person (ID) | + | So maybe interesting to add the parameter of ' |
- | * an artificial person (corporation) | + | Q: who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? |
- | Personhood | + | A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': |
- | * institutions | + | Q: where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? |
- | * a bureaucratical system | + | We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives |
- | * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> ' | + | Perspective |
- | ' | ||
- | * kept | + | ====Workshop 1:Day 2==== |
- | * passed on | + | We looked at an 'Oak du marais' |
- | * destroyed | + | Look at the plane trees (platane) in front of the Walvis. they are planned to be chopped down, and a local protest was mounted because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard (between Yser & Porte de Ninove). There is a plan to replace them with 3 new trees planted 3,5 m closer to the bar (effect: the terrace will be half as big) |
- | -> we could wrap a corporation around | + | ====discussion on the ' |
- | -> if you don't have a birth certificate, you need a story | + | * We can create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account |
+ | * Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? How will we live alongside them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/ | ||
+ | * a way to reconnect with trees, restore the natural-human relationship. e.g in some parts of Lithuania it is unthinkeable to cut a tree. | ||
+ | * can we create a map of Brussels' | ||
+ | * do we see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently? | ||
+ | * look into the ' | ||
+ | * Ecuadorian constitution that has integrated the rights for Nature in the law | ||
+ | * we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system on us, we're the embodiment of a system, our ' | ||
+ | * Heath' | ||
+ | * the human being can occupy most echological niches (of species that disappear) | ||
- | **How do we proceed?** | ||
- | 1/ " | + | Next phase: proof of concept, create prototypes |
+ | * Look at information | ||
+ | * question the frequency & absence of parameters, reconceptualize location, speed, appearance of the aboresceal persona | ||
- | 2/ " | ||
- | 3/ " | + | === books & further reading ==== |
- | A lot of trees have numbers, all trees have a owner in Belgium but with different status (forest, private property, city of bssls) | + | UK barrister Bob Colover and Heath Bunting discuss the legal issues around identities. What constitutes |
- | So maybe interesting | + | * Compendium of Symbolic & ritual plants in Europe |
+ | * Guide to wild foods | ||
+ | * Mycelium running: how mushrooms can help save the world | ||
+ | * The revenge of Gaia | ||
+ | * The end of the wild | ||
+ | * Hildegard's healing plants | ||
+ | * A new green history | ||
+ | * Deep Survival, Lawrence González | ||
- | -> who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? | ||
- | A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': | + | -------------------------------------------- |
- | -> where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? | ||
- | We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives | + | ====Workshop 2: Day1==== |
- | Perspective | + | ===Introduction |
+ | * //the oak// | ||
+ | * //the colonialised tree//: beech of 1882 with an enormous gall, first impression is that of a strong powerful tree, when you look behind it, you see it is invaded by the parasite mushroom Ustulina Deusta -> //possible stories//: the forest is considered to be a museum because of its 'beech cathedral' | ||
+ | * //The solidary and the miraculeus//: | ||
+ | * //Prince charming//: hornbeam/ | ||
+ | * //The Quadruplet//: | ||
+ | * //The kissing trees// | ||
+ | * other trees: the larch (fast grower, encourages the young beeches to grow), the lime tree, the birch with fungi ... | ||
- | **Day 2** | ||
- | - looked at 'Oak du marais' | + | ===Creation of identities=== |
- | - look at trees in front of Walvis, planned to be chopped: platans, protest because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard | + | * ' |
- | -// discussion on the ' | + | * ' |
+ | counter argument: in the old mythology of Balkan the oak is matriarchal, | ||
- | We create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of 'invocation', | + | * 'birch': pioneer, time scale / migration / adapt through preparation (no shock → diarrea, constipation), |
+ | Can birches be new symbol for Northern Eur & North Asian population | ||
- | Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? | + | * ' |
- | How will we co-live with them: as separate entities or as chimera | + | we think that we need much, tree with five elements can live 200 till 1000 years, human needs so many things to become 80 years old |
- | -> a way to reconnect | + | it is representative of the primitive reproduction system, spore-families |
- | f.ex. in Lithuania | + | larch maintained the same instinct, this is how it works |
+ | we went too far of our instincts, we believe the ' | ||
+ | f ex smoke cigars in power clubs | ||
+ | f.ex. Archer' | ||
- | -> create a map of Brussels' | ||
- | -> see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services | + | Other thoughts: |
+ | * As humans we have the ability to change our mind: responding to our basic needs, we can change the status | ||
- | -> look into the 'personalities' | + | * what are we trying to protect: money, income – security mechanism, fight to exist (we find it very difficult to give up things, f.ex. give up mobile phone, psychological reasons), change politically for luxury |
+ | fit / doesn't work anymore, people do not want to change | ||
- | Nik reads Ecuador constitution that has integrated the rights for an ' | ||
- | -> we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system on us, we're the embodiment of a system, our ' | ||
- | Heath' | ||
- | the human being can occupy most echological niches (of species that disappear) | ||
- | Next phase: proof of concept, create prototypes | + | ====Workshop 2: Day2==== |
- | - Look at information & data that exist already | ||
- | - question the frequency | + | exploratie stad |
+ | inleiding tot juridische context | ||
+ | opzoeking geklasseerde bomen centrum www.arbres-inventaire.irisnet.be | ||
+ | wandeling door de stad, welke bomen, wat geven ze ons, hoe kunnen we ze enten, met wat, om een imaginaire boom te maken: ontdekking van rijke diversiteit op Pantsertroepensquare, | ||
+ | plukken van gedroogde vijgen aan de Beurs / geen bomen in de Dansaertstr | ||
+ | lunch | ||
+ | exploratie ' | ||
+ | ===References=== | ||
+ | **Books** | ||
+ | * Colin Tudge, The Secret Life of Trees, Scala, 2009 | ||
+ | **Law & Management Links** | ||
+ | * Brussels Capital Region law & management: | ||
+ | *[[http:// | ||
+ | *[[http:// | ||
+ | *[[http:// | ||
+ | *[[http:// | ||
+ | * [[http:// | ||
+ | * Brussels City (1000), Cel Groene Zones - responsable for choosing, planting & maintaining trees in 1000 Brussels: Patrick Maes Patrick.Maes@brucity.be 02/2796006 | ||
+ | * Le code forestier [[http:// | ||
+ | * Garde Forestier Verdronken Kinderen: Mr Willy Vandevelde (FR): 0497/599 463 | ||
+ | **Different uses of trees** | ||
- | === books/ | ||
- | |||
- | * Compendium of Symb & ritual plants in Europe | ||
- | * Guide to wild foods | ||
- | * Mycelium running: how mushrooms can help save the world | ||
- | * The revenge of Gaia | ||
- | * The end of the wild | ||
- | * Hildegard' | ||
- | * A new green history of the world | ||
- | * Deep Survival, Lawrence González | ||