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| - | ===Workshop Notes=== | + | ====" |
| workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; | workshop on 20121012 and 20121013. participants; | ||
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| Photos: http:// | Photos: http:// | ||
| - | **Day 1** | + | ====Day 1==== |
| - | Look at trees in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés | + | walk and tree identofication |
| - | **Different elements of identity** we looked at: | + | Different elements of identity we looked at: |
| * origin | * origin | ||
| * age | * age | ||
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| * position/ | * position/ | ||
| - | //- General parameters that create a ' | + | General parameters that create a ' |
| - | * //minimal//: name, date of birth, nationality ~ what's your name? where are you from? how old are you? | + | * **minimal** for a natural person: name, date of birth, nationality |
| + | * if you cn provide an answer to the questions: | ||
| - | -> nationality | + | Nationality |
| - | -> can nationality be replaced by citizenship? | + | in some cases nationality |
| * // | * // | ||
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| - | -> create a ' | + | proposal to create a ' |
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| - | A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona | + | |
| - | + | * a human being (material essence, person living on the street) | |
| - | Personhood can refer to | + | * a natural person (ID) |
| - | + | * an artificial person (corporation) | |
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| - | * a natural person (ID) | + | |
| - | * an artificial person (corporation) | + | |
| Personhood is defined by | Personhood is defined by | ||
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| * institutions | * institutions | ||
| * a bureaucratical system | * a bureaucratical system | ||
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| ' | ' | ||
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| * kept | * kept | ||
| * passed on | * passed on | ||
| * destroyed | * destroyed | ||
| - | -> we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert some human dna-fragment in it... | + | we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert some human dna-fragment in it... |
| - | -> if you don't have a birth certificate, | + | if you don't have a birth certificate, |
| **How do we proceed?** | **How do we proceed?** | ||
| + | + **proto-personhood** for trees: ' | ||
| + | + **philosophical**: | ||
| + | + **physicality**: | ||
| - | - " | + | A lot of trees have numbers |
| - | - " | + | |
| - | - " | + | |
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| - | A lot of trees have numbers, all trees have a owner in Belgium but with different status (forest, private property, city of bssls) | + | |
| So maybe interesting to add the parameter of ' | So maybe interesting to add the parameter of ' | ||
| - | -> who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? | + | Q: who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? |
| A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': | A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': | ||
| - | -> where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? | + | Q: where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? |
| We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives | We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives | ||
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| - | **Day 2** | + | ====Day 2==== |
| - | - looked at 'Oak du marais' | + | We looked at an 'Oak du marais' |
| - | - look at trees in front of Walvis, planned to be chopped: platans, protest because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard (between Yser & Porte de Ninove), and because they will be replaced by 3 new trees planted 3,5 m closer to the bar (effect: the terrace will be half as big) | + | Look at the plane trees (platane) |
| - | -// discussion on the ' | + | ====discussion on the ' |
| - | We create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of ' | + | * We can create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of ' |
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| - | Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? | + | |
| - | How will we co-live with them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/ | + | * can we create a map of Brussels' |
| - | + | * do we see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently? | |
| - | -> a way to reconnect with trees, restore the natural-human relationship | + | |
| - | f.ex. in Lithuania it is unthinkeable to cut a tree | + | |
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| - | -> create a map of Brussels' | + | |
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| - | -> see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently? | + | |
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| - | -> look into the ' | + | |
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| - | Nik reads Ecuador constitution that has integrated the rights for Nature in the law | + | |
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| - | -> we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system on us, we're the embodiment of a system, our ' | + | |
| - | Heath' | + | |
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| - | the human being can occupy most echological niches (of species that disappear) | + | |
| Next phase: proof of concept, create prototypes | Next phase: proof of concept, create prototypes | ||
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