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   * age   * age
   * gender   * gender
-  * position/postcode+  * position/address/postcode
  
 General parameters that create a 'normal' identity: General parameters that create a 'normal' identity:
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 Nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree Nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree
  
-in some cases nationality could be replaced by citizenship. could this equate to the 'family'/species the tree belongs to?+in some cases nationality could be replaced by citizenship. could this equate to the family or species the tree belongs to?
  
   * //functional//: telephone, email, postal address, gender   * //functional//: telephone, email, postal address, gender
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   * A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona   * A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona
   * Personhood can refer to    * Personhood can refer to 
-    * a human being (material essence, person living on the street) +    * a human being (material essence, for example a person living on the street) 
-    * a natural person (ID) +    * a natural person (for example, someone able to produce a state issued ID) 
-    * an artificial person (corporation)+    * an artificial person (corporation)
  
 Personhood is defined by  Personhood is defined by 
-  * institutions +  * institutions  
-  * a bureaucratical system +  * a bureaucratic system 
   * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> 'invocation' of persona   * data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> 'invocation' of persona
  
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   * destroyed   * destroyed
  
-we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert some human dna-fragment in it...+we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert human dna-fragment in it...
  
 if you don't have a birth certificate, you need a story... if you don't have a birth certificate, you need a story...
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 A lot of trees have numbers (is there a register? how is it managed?), we can presume all trees have a owner in Belgium but owners may have different status (forest, private property, city of brussels) A lot of trees have numbers (is there a register? how is it managed?), we can presume all trees have a owner in Belgium but owners may have different status (forest, private property, city of brussels)
  
-So maybe interesting to add the parameter of 'owner/user' to the series of tree-parameters and talk about 'lineage/species' instead of nationality+So maybe interesting to add the parameter of 'owner/user' to the series of tree-parameters and talk about 'lineage' or 'species' instead of nationality
  
 Q: who owns it? Who has an interest in using it? Q: who owns it? Who has an interest in using it?
  
-A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': a tree in the city will be different, climbed, polluted, dependant on humans (candle stick prunage)...)+A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': a tree in the city will be different, it can be climbed, polluted, dependant on humans ('candle stick' pruning)
  
 Q: where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up? Q: where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up?
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 ====Day 2==== ====Day 2====
  
-We looked at an 'Oak du marais' in rue des Minimes. it wastransplanted 6 years ago from somewhere else, serves as a 'bar', a meeting place, contains lights from humans, hosts birds...+We looked at an 'Oak du marais' in rue des Minimes. it was transplanted 6 years ago from somewhere else, serves as a 'bar', a meeting place, contains lights from humans, hosts birds...
  
 Look at the plane trees (platane) in front of the Walvis. they are planned to be chopped down, and a local protest was mounted because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard (between Yser & Porte de Ninove). There is a plan to replace them with 3 new trees planted 3,5 m closer to the bar (effect: the terrace will be half as big) Look at the plane trees (platane) in front of the Walvis. they are planned to be chopped down, and a local protest was mounted because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard (between Yser & Porte de Ninove). There is a plan to replace them with 3 new trees planted 3,5 m closer to the bar (effect: the terrace will be half as big)
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   * We can create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of 'invocation', it will start to exist   * We can create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of 'invocation', it will start to exist
-  * Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? How will we co-live with them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/humans+  * Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? How will we live alongside them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/humans
   * a way to reconnect with trees, restore the natural-human relationship. e.g in some parts of Lithuania it is unthinkeable to cut a tree.   * a way to reconnect with trees, restore the natural-human relationship. e.g in some parts of Lithuania it is unthinkeable to cut a tree.
   * can we create a map of Brussels' forest?   * can we create a map of Brussels' forest?
   * do we see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently?   * do we see artificial arboreality as a business? what does it offer in terms of services (oxygen, fruit, fertile soil) - any shared good is value less in the dominant economic ideology of looking at the world -> maybe think differently?
   * look into the 'personalities' of the trees   * look into the 'personalities' of the trees
-  * Nik reads Ecuador constitution that has integrated the rights for Nature in the law+  * Ecuadorian constitution that has integrated the rights for Nature in the law
   * we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system on us, we're the embodiment of a system, our 'identity' is a position of the system we occupy   * we are the system: there is no authority imposing a system on us, we're the embodiment of a system, our 'identity' is a position of the system we occupy
   * Heath's motivation: If we have rules to manage our identity, we can invent the rules to create identity   * Heath's motivation: If we have rules to manage our identity, we can invent the rules to create identity
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