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Paul Granjon & Michka Mélo, May 10th-13th, 2017
We made five new batteries in 500 ml food quality tupperwares with clipping lids.
Layer by layer, from bottom to top, we have :
Layer by layer, from bottom to top, we have :
* serpent-shaped (about 10 crossings across the tupperware) inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the black (-) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * 1-cm-thick layer of graphite powder, mixed with water * (soaked) wool membrane * 2 spoons of FeO oxide thoroughly mixed in the mud * (soaked) wool membrane * serpent-shaped (about 10 crossings across the tupperware) inox wire, with * 1-cm-thick layer of graphite powder, mixed with water, with a vertical section insulated with the grey (+) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * A small bit of red mono-fiber wire is woven around the (+) electrode wire to clearly distinguish it from the (-) electrode wire * both electrode wires are interwoven on the top to avoid the top (+) electrode to sink away from oxygen * a small opening is cut on side of the lid with a cutting clamp to let the electrode wires go through towards the circuit * the lid is drilled with * 9 small holes for aeration * one additional smaller hole to place a screw * the screw is screwed from the inside of the tupperware, with a small “écrou” on the outside to fix it properly * we then put the Mudwatt circuit board on the screw with no additional “écrou” > this system allows to open the lid without messing with the mix and the electrodes inside, as we can easily remove the board * the electrode wires are then connected to the Mudwatt board, like in the kits * each electrode has a reported resistance of about 300 ohms. * iron oxide was tried after Paul noticed red spots on the walls of the most blinking Mudwatt. We think it might be a good electron carrier.
Layer by layer, from bottom to top, we have :
* graphite rods cut to fit in the tupperware, and woven together with inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the black (-) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * mud * graphite rods cut to fit in the tupperware, and woven together with inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the grey (+) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire. * A small bit of red mono-fiber wire is woven around the (+) electrode wire to clearly distinguish it from the (-) electrode wire * both electrode wires are interwoven on the top to avoid the top (+) electrode to sink away from oxygen * a small opening is cut on side of the lid with a cutting clamp to let the electrode wires go through towards the circuit * the lid is drilled with * 9 small holes for aeration * one additional smaller hole to place a screw * the screw is screwed from the inside of the tupperware, with a small “écrou” on the outside to fix it properly * we then put the Mudwatt circuit board on the screw with no additional “écrou” > this system allows to open the lid without messing with the mix and the electrodes inside, as we can easily remove the board * the electrode wires are then connected to the Mudwatt board, like in the kits * no resistance was measured on electrodes
Layer by layer, from bottom to top, we have :
* graphite rods cut to fit in the tupperware, and woven together with inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the black (-) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * 2 spoons of FeO oxide thoroughly mixed in the mud * graphite rods cut to fit in the tupperware, and woven together with inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the grey (+) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire. * A small bit of red mono-fiber wire is woven around the (+) electrode wire to clearly distinguish it from the (-) electrode wire * both electrode wires are interwoven on the top to avoid the top (+) electrode to sink away from oxygen * a small opening is cut on side of the lid with a cutting clamp to let the electrode wires go through towards the circuit * the lid is drilled with * 9 small holes for aeration * one additional smaller hole to place a screw * the screw is screwed from the inside of the tupperware, with a small “écrou” on the outside to fix it properly * we then put the Mudwatt circuit board on the screw with no additional “écrou” > this system allows to open the lid without messing with the mix and the electrodes inside, as we can easily remove the board * the electrode wires are then connected to the Mudwatt board, like in the kits * no resistance was measured on electrodes * iron oxide was tried after Paul noticed red spots on the walls of the most blinking Mudwatt. We think it might be a good electron carrier.
* serpent-shaped (about 10 crossings across the tupperware) inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the black (-) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * 1-cm-thick layer of graphite powder, mixed with tiny bits (about 1 mm long) of wool and water * (soaked) wool membrane * mud * (soaked) wool membrane * serpent-shaped (about 10 crossings across the tupperware) inox wire, with a vertical section insulated with the grey (+) plastic cover of a reclaimed multi-fiber wire * A small bit of red mono-fiber wire is woven around the (+) electrode wire to clearly distinguish it from the (-) electrode wire * 1-cm-thick layer of graphite powder, mixed with tiny bits (about 1 mm long) of wool and water * both electrode wires are interwoven on the top to avoid the top (+) electrode to sink away from oxygen * a small opening is cut on side of the lid with a cutting clamp to let the electrode wires go through towards the circuit * the lid is drilled with * 9 small holes for aeration * one additional smaller hole to place a screw * the screw is screwed from the inside of the tupperware, with a small “écrou” on the outside to fix it properly * we then put the Mudwatt circuit board on the screw with no additional “écrou” > this system allows to open the lid without messing with the mix and the electrodes inside, as we can easily remove the board * the electrode wires are then connected to the Mudwatt board, like in the kits. * each electrode has a reported resistance of about 300 ohms.
* My original JT only allows the LED to light up when the voltage is higher than the actual voltage at which the LED lights up without the JT.
* The current consumption is very high. * I tried several of the best transistors advised by Watson, but it did not help.
Paul suggested that I could simulate the MFC with a resistor-based voltage divider, made of two resistors in series, with our simulated MFC (+) between the two resistors, and the (-) after the two resistors. This way I can control both the voltage (a function of both resistors value) and the current (limited by the total resistor value of both resistors). This might be less problematic.
* The stop discharge voltage is between 0.3 and 0.6 V lower, which is not enough to run efficiently the circuits envisioned for our robotic installation.
* IT WORKED !!! (on a fully charged supercapacitory rating at 2.7 V 1 F)
* (Circuit scheme is drawn in “nice designs notebook”, to be scanned).
* !!! Beware ! The MFC current supply might be much lower than the one from the power supply (which however is < 10 mA anyway, according to what the LCD screen says).
=2.5.1.1 Results=
* We left each Mudwatt (S882-Z) chip on each batteries, and connected the output of each chips in parallel of each other.
=2.5.1.2 Consequences on the PHS design=
* … it is actually a limitation of the S882-Z chip, which will only charge up to 1.8 V (according to the datasheet). * This means that our supercap will only charge up to 1.8 V, which is not sufficient to power the BBC microbit * or even open the 1381 voltage detector, which opening rising voltage limit is at 2.4 V. * This means that we need another boost converter or charge pump using the 1.8 V charged supercap energy to bring it up to 2.4 V to activate the 1381 voltage detector, and then power the BBC microbit enough to open the gate of the 2N3904 feeding itself longer directly from the energy source. * Some questions include : * Do we need another supercap at the output of the second boost converter/charge pump to store energy to feed the BBC microbit, or will the connexion of the boost converter/charge pump to the BBC microbit be sufficient in itself ? * Could the second boost converter/charge pump replace the need for a post-Beam circuit (1381 voltage detector + transistors), by directly powering the BBC microbit in the appropriate conditions ? * Could we put some MFC in series, and use a different charge pump with a higher supply/input voltage, but a higher output voltage to directly power the BBC microbit from the charge pump ? * Circuit design constraints * Few and available (not outdated) components, big enough to be soldered with Fablab equipment. * Available (and not outdated) components.
* We left each Mudwatt (S882-Z) chip on each batteries, and connected the output of each chips in parallel of each other.
* either bell shaped value, increasing then decreasing
* or decreasing only * or increasing only * about 600 mV (decreases before stabilization) * on the smaller calibration button (200 microA) > slows very much between 100 and 200 microA. * We stopped here the measurements of the home-made MFCs. There is clearly some activity (over 100 microA current in the batteries), but the electrolytic effects in the MFCs makes them difficult to measure, and we will not get any precise measurement anyway. Something seems to happen. Just let it build up…
* We directly connected the output of each Mudwatts in parallel of each other, and connected a single Mudwatt (882-Z) chip in parallel to all of them. ( * Start at 12h07)
* We left each Mudwatt (S882-Z) chip on each batteries, and connected the output of each chips in series. ( * Start at 13h26)
* We directly connected the Mudwatts in series, and connected a single Mudwatt (882-Z) chip to all of them. ( * Start at 16h03)