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 Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of quick extinction Concept: Legal identity of trees in period of quick extinction
  
-Day 1 +**Day 1** 
-Look at trees in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés + 
-- different elements of identity we looked at:+Look at trees in Forest de Soignes / Verdronken Kinderen-Enfants Noyés 
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 +**Different elements of identity** we looked at: 
 * origin * origin
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 * age * age
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 * gender * gender
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 * position/postcode * position/postcode
  
-- General parameters that create a 'normal' identity: +//- General parameters that create a 'normal' identity:// 
-* minimal: name, date of birth, nationality ~ what's your name? where are you from? how old are you?+ 
 +//minimal//: name, date of birth, nationality ~ what's your name? where are you from? how old are you? 
 -> nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree -> nationality is complex in general, and also for the tree
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 -> can nationality be replaced by citizenship? Or by 'family'/species the tree belongs to? -> can nationality be replaced by citizenship? Or by 'family'/species the tree belongs to?
-* functional 
  
-other possible parameters:  +* //functional//telephone, email, postal address, gender 
-health insurance + 
-fax +* //extra//: health insurance number, debit card/bank account, tax number 
-bank account+ 
 +* //actual//: website, facebook, linkedin, myspace... 
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 +* 'What can x do?' 
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 -> create a 'corporation' around the tree? -> create a 'corporation' around the tree?
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 +A new legal persona is not necessarily a natural persona
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 +Personhood can refer to 
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 +* a human being (material essence, person living on the street)
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 +* a natural person (ID)
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 +* an artificial person (corporation)
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 +Personhood is defined by 
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 +* institutions
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 +* a bureaucratical system 
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 +* data: if you have enough data you can find/create meaning -> 'invocation' of persona
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 +'Natural and articifial persons' are considered to be the property of a human being, any property can be
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 +* kept
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 +* passed on
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 +* destroyed
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 +-> we could wrap a corporation around the tree, insert some human dna-fragment in it...
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 +-> if you don't have a birth certificate, you need a story
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 +**How do we proceed?**
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 +1/ "proto-personhood" for trees: 'law', relationships of management & property
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 +2/ "philosophical": why
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 +3/ "physicality": 'functionality', relationships to other people/things
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 +A lot of trees have numbers, all trees have a owner in Belgium but with different status (forest, private property, city of bssls)
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 +So maybe interesting to add the parameter of 'owner/user' to the series of tree-parameters and talk about 'lineage/species' instead of nationality
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 +-> who owns it? Who has an interest in using it?
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 +A tree is defined by lineage but also by 'the context': a tree in the city will be different, climbed, polluted, dependant on humans (candle stick prunage)...)
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 +-> where do the seeds come from? where did it grow up?
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 +We make a checklist and look at it from different perspectives
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 +Perspective of a tree: does not want to be chopped off & wants the right to light, soil & water
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 +Day 2
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 +- looked at 'Oak du marais' in rue des Minimes, transplanted 6 years ago from somewhere else, serves as a 'bar', a meeting place, lighted by humans, hosts birds...
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 +- look at trees in front of Walvis, planned to be chopped: platans, protest because they are the 2 only trees at that side of the Boulevard (between Yser & Porte de Ninove), and because they will be replaced by 3 new trees planted 3,5 m closer to the bar (effect: the terrace will be half as big)
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 +- discussion on the 'arboresceal persona'
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 +We create it and integrate it in our daily language, start taking it into account -> method of 'invocation', it will start to exist
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 +Look at the bigger picture: what if trees have legal identity & rights? 
 +How will we co-live with them: as separate entities or as chimera of tree/humans
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