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Media FilesFlotilla debrief, Friday, 14 December 2012 10:34:48 AM Rasa, Shelli, Tim, Nik, Maja, Uroš, Bart, Carole, Alkan, Christina, Pacome, Dismas, Natalya, Marko three questions about how we work together on interesting things in this scenario: yourself and the collective the flotilla as a possible future the prehearsal method you and the collective Tim * like being permanently stoned in a safe space * useful even if something self-imposed, creating a feeling of value by making our lives more difficult then more easy - like setting yourself a small maths problem * the ladder added an extra degree of silliness to the proceedings, but was it necessary? * gamemaster roles unclear * engineering problem with the power - what is the scenario and what is a “real” issue? - unclear where the line was between this * made-up responsibilities, but the feast the only real responsibility Carole * entering a very pretty and welcoming space, a home but different from home * inspired by the names - first session transported me to the ship * took me a while to realise about the electricity crisis - need a system in place for critical or dangerous situations * names created an imaginary of a faraway land and involved a long rite of passage in choosing, which turned my journey into something else * an emergency at home meant I had to leave my persona for the whole afternoon - really affected my personal experience - frustrating * need to be very prepared for a 24-hour period in another role * enriching over-excitement about so many great ideas and things to do * felt everything took a long time to do - took ages to do simple tasks Bart * challenge to still be yourself while being something different * difficult for a non-human * inspired by Ben Okri * I was not an agave plant * wanted to stir up things if I was bitten by a rat * impressed by the level of activity that developed * struggle the first day, next day easier * talking/interacting with objects, non-human entities, e.g. automaton * lots of ideas about the future development of the non-human * people created a multiverse, talking about external world a challenge * surprised by the activities - not more done with the mayhem * wanted to see people find resilience in their flotilla roles but people took up their typical roles in daily life * the fiction vs nonfiction tension Rasa * natural role to play, suited me very well: serving food, organising, etc. * festiveness worked well * as a collective we have such a great bond with partners - like a family coming together, no need for ice-breaking * great diversity * group was a nice mix - at least one person you didn’t know but also lots of people you know * names were great but difficult to remember * creating the feast was extremely special - wow! * some things quite silly and not necessary but they brought interesting dynamics Christina * activities very interesting but without aim or purpose * only 24 hours to invent these purposes * no real tasks or problems to solve (except preparing food) * difficult to leave the scene of Marko’s departure and go and meditate * constant business - strange to me * skills make the group very resilient, but we had to invent tasks to use our skills - we managed this very well Pacome * didn’t want a specific role - nice to be a passenger * food - basic task * a passenger staying longer becomes something else * ritual very important and nice for creating the fiction * the mix of reality and fiction: a tool or liability? Uroš * came late to the ship which changed my experience - missed the rite of passage, of leaving something behind * at first tried hard to observe and analyse * then just enjoyed being at FoAM - a time off, a different tempo * roles not very structured, not boredom, though some element of laziness Dismas * French kissing created quite a lot of poisons… * choosing the name, chance to read about the culture novels * collective responsibilities confused with many ideas * being a cook was flexible - learnt a lot of things, e.g. making bread, schnapps, French kissing workshop, gardening * working and living together with diverse people really good * flotilla structure perfect * all activities a bit chaotic * openness about sharing information * getting answer from flexible demeanour you got a flexible answer * Theun was always trying to find time to sleep * power cut - contingency plans for this * real world vs imagined scenario - need to preempt the future * never tried yoga - everyone talking about energy - bringing energy to people * collecting resources for the future Shell * entry to the Flotilla very moving, opening it up to people not currently at FoAM * enthusiasm and stress about the costumes was really touching because it showed how important they were for everyone * many different roles esp. with documentation - really nice but on reflection maybe just one role would have been better - as a quiet meditation * meditation on responsibility * relationship to the collective - sometimes I need my own space * didn’t take time to be there for myself * dinner was magical * a vague scheme materialises * sense of humour really resilient * to see the space transformed into the Flotilla was magical * not sure if I understood the role switch - getting into character - maybe more distance to get into character * magic to be floated away on the Flotilla Maja * continuous weight of responsibility of captain * this ship would have sunk * things going wrong - electricity was a simple thing but nothing happened * magnifying glass on how things already are in this group * amazingly strong with simple clear fun tasks, celebrations - rare to find such trust and ease of togetherness - we could run a restaurant or club easily * but I’d be really scared to rely on other when things go wrong * marko’s escape got done really well * but the shared purpose part was lost in the flurry of activities that are nice but not relevant beyond the group * very painful because it became crystal clear that many things need to change Nik * three main components of the exercise: * feast * publication * maintaining and exploring the scenario * good at randomly dissipating nervous energy - exciting and frivolous things * a distance between activities and scenario - making the connection was difficult * feast leaving behind apocalyptic visions * the world didn’t end * publication a good task to reflect on * brought into focus patterns and antipatterns * getting into character and finding a place within the scenario enjoyable * we were building something, but it was very unclear Natalya * as a mushroom, mixed feelings * didn’t know the people or the space * confused with the costumes - over costumed, over-theatrical - just wanted to shake people out of this * wanted to some inner connection * lack of observation, decisions about how and what to do - ok for one day but not longer * overplayed and artificial, but very enjoyable - still need to digest the experience * Slovenia was very different - more time to develop * good to see the same people in different situations but still within one network Marko * lost my resilience * just had an intense month of real-world practices * liberating situation - thought it was going to be very different - expected very concrete tasks - realised this was not the case * stoned or removed from reality but shared common interests * leaving the Flotilla was like bringing an inner world into the outer world - great sense of purpose in the morning - we actually had the ladder, otherwise would have to use sheets * interesting to see what we were doing made sense * role-playing was great * sleeping arrangements and rhythms of sleeping interesting - rest extremely important for resilience * tendency to sleep in this scenario - in any normal gathering no one would just start sleeping - quite beautiful * morning really well executed - really sad to leave * sent SMSs to report my progress after disembarking the Flotilla * met the Slovenian prime minister (surrounded by about 20-35 women) at the airport after the Flotilla - how to explain where I’d just come from? * 24 hours very short - read the bulk of the documentation just before the scenario * shows we still have a child inside - this is the most important and resilient lesson we can learn * how I described the Flotilla to others: “I was just with a group of very beautiful people” Alkan * had a screw loose * struggle with the whole issue of personal vs collective * compressed 24 hours was a nightmare come true, was dreading it * will never be resilient in this kind of scenario * planning was nice, but got flu just before starting - this made the lack of inner connection to the scenario more pronounced and made it unenjoyable * but lot of beautiful little moments - like the the late-night silent “ghost” party * but difficult to find a connection with prehearsal overall Cocky [via email] * the group dynamics were going down the drain * the ones not willing to participate or giving to the whole might have the hardest time, and were just sucking energy from the others * this mechanism amplified on the Flotilla * everybody was sort of more floating around rather than heading towards a clear direction * for myself, I would prefer not to to dedicate myself for/in a community (unless i could fulfil the role of a passenger) * feels too enclosed - the Flotilla felt more like a cut off entity from the world instead of living in the world Trudo [via email] * IMO it proves that linear, and non linear travel are best suited as a way of working, collaborating, or simply getting together * overall, the 24-hour timeframe, and the politeness of the participants prevented much of the fragility to break * timeframe was short, on the positive: no need for a lot of magic to make us believe in the trip Nico [via email] * it is not an everyday thing for me to find company to speculate without boundaries * somehow it ended happening that about a couple of dozen of us where gathered in the same space at the same time * it is a efficient exercise to spend the most valuable resource that we all have (time) under this conditions * being shameless in proposing new subjects which are then fed by the others is a dynamic in such interesting projects * I just found a great tool that can be used many times and that will be shared with many others Loes [via email] * I think the well established setting (location, costumes, food supplies, gifts) was very good and turned out very important * appropriating a role went quite naturally when you can stay close to your own person * there was place for different ambiences: serious thoughts, silence at the campfire, fun, party, .. * open questions that were posed: * what does the outside world look like during flotilla? * what catastrophes would make us actually change our lives this drastically? * would you ever join a community like flotilla? * the prehearsal reflects very well the travels and experiments we've taken during Resilients - it was good to have this experience with the whole group what resilient and what fragile * respect * agreement on shared means * shared supply issues * issues with taking care of your own trash, awareness of your traces - cleaning up after yourself but goes beyond this to an awareness of the space, of others, of what you use * as a group we could have resolved this - seeing the real problems and addressing them immediately with people able and willing to help * issues of self-sustainability and responsibility * documentation - important but fragile * lack of clarity in certain situations - e.g. in an emergency: what is an emergency and what to do? * but this is in conflict with the fiction * weird in-and-out fiction-real situation contributed to this feeling of being lost * set of principles (not rules) * imbalance in principles * rules and responsibilities emerging spontaneously * how to self-organise when working together * roles and real things - if every role had a concrete duty it might have enhanced the prehearsal * practical down-to-earth survival vs cultural creative resilience - Carole did not know we were doing both - work and life - bot resilient and fragile * ritual important - concretely for the group and keeping the fiction alive - bridge between everyday life and the fiction * no game master, laws of physics - fragile * 100% commitment fragile * sharing knowledge, resources - resilient * number of people involved - a limit to the number of people in a group that can function without resorting to formal rules - 25 people? * original idea of flotilla to have 100-200 people - a mini-society * demon of resilience - high expectations * angel - playfulness and lightness * and for non-humans? - they are both angels and demons * time for feedback * e.g. group photos a time for feedback, time out, “reality” checks prehearsal method * names - good for another role but took too long to remember * introduced a fictional element that had less to do with us or our context * made the exchange more difficult * everything too complex to do in 24 hours * people went out of role * first shift too short - too many things to do * first shift too long? * boat metaphor good * 4 hours a good time - long enough but short enough * actual design of the flotilla not clear * unexpected future but no unexpected things happening * Rasa for example had lots of predefined tasks - she knew what would happen - but most of us didn’t have this sense * Rasa not aware we would have to divide roles so strictly beforehand * unequal situation - e.g. Rasa was at home and knew the space/scenario * time to allow roles to evolve - part of the [pre]design or collectively decided * everyone involved in the prehearsal should be involved in the scenario preparation from beginning to end - or else have a much more defined structure * dilemma of more or less structure - if other people are coming in more structure is needed * a neutral or new space * methodology really important and takes time - is it really in character, performing, are you playing roles or is this necessary? * extrapolation of yourself - what would have made this more clear? * email terrible way of communicating complex stuff - so much left unsaid, what is really important and not * briefing as important as the prehearsal: more time to talk before going into the prehearsal - deeper collective briefing * no focus on the dinner the night before, and the morning was also chaotic * last big meeting 6 months ago, wanted to catch up and talk about our projects but if I’m this character what do I do? * an unstructured day where there were no roles, names, responsibilities would have been good * but with formal thing first then people are committed * tried the informal gathering in June but only two people would have been there * handbook discussion first? * preparation vs playing - different between preparing it for ourselves and preparing it for others * confusion over playing for yourself and for others * Marko’s role can fit in the scenario - so let it happen * strictness vs spontaneity * we could work Marko beforehand, didn’t know about Bart’s * several briefings? * e.g. only told our stories once * but if at every shift change there was an elaboration of the story it would be more effective * sit down for 20 minutes to write down our roles as a ritual * prehearsing a skill you can learn? * if we were on a ship, where are we going, what was the weather, sensual experience of being on the sea? * scenario round the ship itself - out to sea on its own, travelling round from place to place? * work on narrative details would have made it more effective * lots of details not decided on - the network, the water, etc. * world-building - more frequent discussions would helped this * integrate a crisis plan for all participants * building up the values of the flotilla - curiosity, integrity… * characters - picked beforehand, not changing characters quickly * confusing changes of characters * could have made roles more clear from the beginning * observers - where the ship was heading to - observing even the music as a way of telling where we were * clearly integrated we could know where we were * never put your eggs in one basket * never put all resilients in one boat * world-building vs improvisation * develop links, foster the mycelia, where will the mushrooms pop upPlease fill all the letters into the box to prove you're human. 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